Monday, 03 March 2008

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  • socrates2004
    Would you prefer that we treat all homosexuals like the "God hates Fags" lunatics?
    The one thing that the article does not bring up is whether he thinks that homosexuality or abortions are sinful. The quotes in the article don't seem to paint homosexuality or abortion in the most positive of lights. I was a bit surprised by his comments on abortion, from his record I figured that he would have come out with more positive language (maybe it was just the fact that he was in Ohio), he certainly is not a liberal as Clinton on abortion. He also points out that there is a distinction between homosexual and heterosexual relationships, that is not so liberal either. The way he talks here is more moderate. That is the way he likes to portray himself in public from what I have been reading, though. Certainly he is very liberal in other aspects of his thinking, but at least here he seems to be moderate. I would prefer his view to what I have heard a lot of "other Christians" say.
  • bahnsen

    @socrates2004 - Mind you, I agree with the antifederalist position that the states should decide how they will treat civil unions; it is not the government's job to define marriage--God already has done that.  The states (per the constitution) should vote and if people don't like the decision, they can move.  No, I do not liek the Rev. Fred Phelps approach of "God hates Fags."  We should treat people as they should be treated: in need of the same saving grace that I need.  The article was just telling the harsh truth about what Scripture indeed teaches about it.  At the end of Rom. 1, Paul reiterates what the Torah says in Lev. 19 when he says "those who do these things deserve to die."  But I'm not the local Christian magistrate, so, in light of the fact that the sodomy laws (supported by texts like this) have been repealed in the states, we shold treat them in kindness, since Providence has allowed their life to be spared.  They have more opportunity to repent and believe the Gospel.

    Of course Obama doesn't think these things are sinful; he's a member of the UCC and it don't get more liberal than that unless one winds up in the Unitarian church.  To quote Tillich, "Sin is existential estrangement" -- whatever that means.

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